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Sunday, February 08, 2009

海外校园


被抛弃的“皇冠上的巨宝”

  被抛弃的“皇冠上的巨宝”
  
  作者:道初
  
  近日收到一封从中国大陆寄出的信件,问及《创世记》创造次序问题∶
  
  “我是个徘徊在信主和不信之间、内心挣扎、非常痛苦的人。对是否有神,我半信半疑。宇宙万物这麽和谐,说明似乎有神。但有了神,神是谁呢?
  
  “佛教、回教都有不对的地方,但基督教也有令人怀疑的地方。比如《创世记》。怎麽可能先有地球再有太阳?怎麽会先有太阳再造众星?第一天还没有太阳,怎麽就会‘有晚上、有早晨’?如果地球最先创造,太阳和众星比地球年轻几亿年,岂不跟天文学矛盾?┅┅
  
  “我希望道初、里程和基甸等弟兄,帮助我解除信仰危机。盼回信。”
  
  落款是∶浙江某县某镇某村 小华
  
  我於是写了如下回信∶
  
  小华∶
  
  基甸先生转来你的邮件,看后,首先感谢上帝赐给你一颗追求真理的心。你提到你正在思索信仰并感到痛苦,这种追求真理的精神是何等的宝贵!
  
  我在这里就你提出的《创世记》问题,作一些讨论,供参考。
  
  作为圣经首卷,《创世记》并非一部科学著作,但包含了一系列关於宇宙和生命起源的根本真理。它在3,500多年前,明确宣告和预言了宇宙有起源。它又清晰地宣告了生命来自於神的创造,因而指出了生命的根本价值和归属,以及人类苦难的源由等,与後来耶稣所宣告的“我就是道路、真理、生命;若不藉著我,没有人能到父那里去”,构成从创造到拯救的完整的福音真理。
  
  同时,《创世记》内隐藏著许多上帝创世的奥秘,是我们至今都不懂的。所以当我们读时,当有一颗敬畏、谦卑的心,不可先入为主,急著下结论。在解释那些隐意时,也不能代替圣经来说话,尤其不能代替上帝来说话。我们可以说,这段经文不排除某种可能性,却不能说,它一定是我理解的这个意思。我们任何时候都不能说我们已经完全理解了,而只能说我们正在努力。这是我的基本立场。
  
  假如北京、广州同时开灯
  
  你觉得现代天文学的发现与《创世记》创序有矛盾∶科学发现,太阳、群星比地球老,但《创世记》是先有地(第一日造),後造日月群星(第四日造)。我觉得如果你从不同角度来领悟,你会发现,其实这二者可以是和谐的。
  
  让我们从宇宙年龄说起。按《创世记》的字面解释,宇宙年龄约万年之数,但近代天文学提出,按地球上的测时来看,从大爆炸起源算起,宇宙年龄超过百亿年。二者不是非常矛盾吗?
  
  其实,即便从纯科学角度讲,这两者统一起来也不难。按相对论,时间不是绝对的。速度越快的系统,时间越慢;万有引力越强,时间也越慢。当系统速度为光速时,时间就相对停止了,即所谓“光系统是零时间”。
  
  所以,如果宇宙起始时物质发出的速度(如高速微粒流等),足够近光速系统,那麽当地面测时为百亿年时,对它仅仅是几日,这可能就是《创世记》的钟了。我们不妨称这样的系统为“准圣钟”。原麻省理工学院物理学教授、以色列耶路撒冷大学物理教授施罗得,还专门写了本书,用这样的慢钟,划分宇宙百多亿年。所以,不能说圣经不对,创世六日首先在原理上已经是正确的了。
  
  那为什么《创世记》说,大地的年龄比宇宙群星老,但天文学提出群星比地球老呢?这从科学上也是好理解的。相对论指出,“同时性”并非绝对的,不同测时系统的同时性是不同的。其实所谓的老或年轻是有个前题的,即不同地点的事物要同时起步计时才有意义。如果“同时”不是绝对的,就出现复杂情况了。
  
  按爱因斯坦狭义相对论,在一个静止系统中,两个不同地点的事件同时发生时,在沿该两点联线方向上运动的系统内,此二事件不是同时的。在前面的事件恒早於在後面的。且运动系统的速度越高,二事件空间距离越远,提早的时间越多,也就是两件事越显得不同时。
  
  举个例子∶我们在广州和北京同时开电灯,地球上的所有人都会承认,这两地的灯是同时亮的。但如果有一个近光速的飞船,正好从广州往北京方向飞去,按相对论,飞行员绝不会同意地球人的说法,因为他看到了北京的电灯先亮。至於早亮多久,取决於飞船的速度。飞船越快,飞行员看到北京的灯越早亮。甚至,即便先开广州灯,只要飞船的速度足够快,仍会看到北京的灯先亮!
  
  这也就是说,在不同地点的两事件(北京的灯和广州的灯),其发生的时间先後顺序不是绝对的,而是取决於观察者的情况,先後是可颠倒的!
  
  这似乎难以想像,但这是光速不变原理决定的。
  
  扩展开去,用北京代表地球,用广州代表宇宙一个星球,当地球人看到星球年龄比地球老时,从星球直奔地球的光速系统上却看到,地球比星球老!
  
  假设“准圣钟”正处於地球和星星的连线上,并奔向地球,那麽,地球就比相应方向上的星星都老!
  
  那上帝在哪个系统中呢?既然圣经告诉我们,上帝是自有永有,且无所不能、无处不在,他当然可处在宇宙所有系统中,按他自己的意志说话了。所以上帝可以宣告大地比宇宙、星星老,也可以在“第四日”造星星和日月。上帝是可以用这样“准圣钟”系统来说话的。
  
  我们之所以觉得奇怪,只是因为人受了经典力学时空观的局限,更把上帝当成和人一样的个体观察者了。圣经对上帝有拟人化的描写,但上帝本质是灵。上帝的灵无处不在,超越单个时空系统,他的奥秘是隐藏的。
  
  再强调一下,当我们用上面方式来解释时,并非说圣经的意思一定是这样的,只能说,即便按科学讲,你也不能说《创世记》不合理。而且,科学本身只是相对真理,不断需要修改、补充。所以,即使科学的结果和《创世记》不一致,也不要低估了圣经中的智慧,而仓促下结论,说圣经与科学相矛盾。其实,随著科学的进展,人们就能更多理解圣经的深刻和谐性。
  
  每想起此事,总是够刺激的
  
  让我们把讨论稍微扩大一点∶科学是什麽呢?依著基督教信仰,在上帝创造的奥秘中,上帝允许人类逐步明白其中的部分奥秘,科学就是对这部分奥秘的阐明,科学规律属於上帝荣耀和智慧的创造。所以,信仰上帝和相信科学规律的存在,本质上是一致的。这也就不难明白,为什麽奠定各个科学领域基础知识的先驱,如牛顿(微积分,力学,光学),高斯(数学,力学),哥白尼(天文学),伽利略(力学,天文学),帕斯卡(流体力学),麦克士威(电磁学),薛定鄂(量子物理)......都是上帝的信奉者。
  
  尤其是牛顿,这位科学巨人,他把自己的一切发现和成就,当作荣耀上帝创造的见证。爱因斯坦是牛顿之後,另一位具有划时代影响的大物理学家,他对牛顿极为敬佩。虽然他并不信圣经中的上帝,但也是一位满有宗教情怀的人。按他自己的说法,浩瀚的宇宙,就足以使他产生“宗教情怀”了。这种超越的情怀,使他的科学思维达及超越的境界,从而提出相对论,并使物理学进入超越经典时空观的新阶段,奠定了现代宇宙学的基础。
  
  但是另一方面,他有过重大的失误。他在1915年提出了广义相对论,其方程式有一个不稳定解,对应於“可膨胀的宇宙”。从逻辑讲,如果宇宙膨胀的话,就必定有开头,即有起源了。但是爱氏觉得宇宙有起源是不可思议的。用他自己的话说,他难以相信,宇宙是个人性的神所造,故他不接受《创世记》。他转而认为自己的方程式不完全,便人为地加了一个反引力性的常数,来消除宇宙有起源的解。
  
  不久(1924年),美国天文学家哈伯,指出宇宙星系是彼此分离的,且越远的,跑开得越快,这和不稳定宇宙的概念相合。爱因斯坦亲自到哈伯的天文台去见哈伯,了解这种理论(後被称为“哈伯定律”)。
  
  到1929,比利时天主教传教士李美特,根据哈伯的发现和爱因斯坦广义相对论,首次提出了“宇宙大爆炸"理论,认为宇宙以爆炸起源,且仍在膨胀当中。此後,大爆炸理论越来越为科学界接受。
  
  爱因斯坦非常後悔。他错失良机,让人类有史以来最伟大、最深刻的科学成果,“皇冠上的巨宝”,失之交臂,或者说,得而弃之。这项成就,对任何科学家而言,都是最辉煌的成就,包括爱氏也不例外。所以爱氏“每想起此事,总是够刺激的(指刺心的憾事)”。
  
  回头看,爱因斯坦也不算“冤”。因为爱氏作为犹太人,最有机会读圣经,比任何人都更接近《创世记》的重大启示──宇宙有起源。不幸,他没有接受。而上帝的仆人,李美特传教士拿到这项成就,是非常合乎逻辑的,他本来就信《创世记》,信宇宙是上帝所造、有起源嘛。於是,一旦科学资讯和工具到手,他立刻明白内中的精髓,大胆地把新理论提了出来。
  
  这就清楚不过地表明∶宇宙起源从科学上的提出,说到底是信仰的选择!这也显明了《创世记》的巨大科学内涵,及其对科学发展的深刻影响。由此,我们不得不对《创世记》中上帝的话语,怀敬畏的心,不得不以爱氏为鉴,并记住∶科学越是深入,其解越是超越性的,越倾向於超出人类可直接验证的范围。人的判断和自信越悬空,就越当谦卑下来,在心中腾出位置给上帝!
  
  最後,我对小华您还有一句话∶作为人,重要的是他和上帝的关系。虽然最基本的理性问题要解决,但不必等到所有理性问题都解决了,才去信、才得救。其实耶稣十字架的救恩和复活,已有足够的理由使我们信仰他,跟随他。一旦信了,许多问题反而容易解决,甚至不是问题了!
  
  (作者为退休物理学教授,现住美国加州。)
  
  转自《海外校园》
  http://www.oc.org/web/modules/smartsection/category.php?categoryid=188

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Is There a God?

Is There a God?
Does God exist? Our lives and universe show a deliberate Designer. The more we learn, the more astounding.

existence of God

By Marilyn Adamson

proof of GodJust once wouldn't you love for someone to simply show you the evidence for God's existence? No arm-twisting. No statements of, "You just have to believe." Well, here is an attempt to candidly offer some of the reasons which suggest that God exists.

But first consider this. If a person opposes even the possibility of there being a God, then any evidence can be rationalized or explained away. It is like if someone refuses to believe that people have walked on the moon, then no amount of information is going to change their thinking. Photographs of astronauts walking on the moon, interviews with the astronauts, moon rocks...all the evidence would be worthless, because the person has already concluded that people cannot go to the moon.

When it comes to the possibility of God's existence, the Bible says that there are people who have seen sufficient evidence, but they have suppressed the truth about God.1 On the other hand, for those who want to know God if he is there, he says, "You will seek me and find me; when you seek me with all your heart, I will be found by you."2 Before you look at the facts surrounding God's existence, ask yourself, If God does exist, would I want to know him? Here then, are some reasons to consider...

1. Does God exist? The complexity of our planet points to a deliberate Designer who not only created our universe, but sustains it today.

Many examples showing God's design could be given, possibly with no end. But here are a few:

The Earth...its size is perfect. The Earth's size and corresponding gravity holds a thin layer of mostly nitrogen and oxygen gases, only extending about 50 miles above the Earth's surface. If Earth were smaller, an atmosphere would be impossible, like the planet Mercury. If Earth were larger, its atmosphere would contain free hydrogen, like Jupiter.3 Earth is the only known planet equipped with an atmosphere of the right mixture of gases to sustain plant, animal and human life.

existence of GodThe Earth is located the right distance from the sun. Consider the temperature swings we encounter, roughly -30 degrees to +120 degrees. If the Earth were any further away from the sun, we would all freeze. Any closer and we would burn up. Even a fractional variance in the Earth's position to the sun would make life on Earth impossible. The Earth remains this perfect distance from the sun while it rotates around the sun at a speed of nearly 67,000 mph. It is also rotating on its axis, allowing the entire surface of the Earth to be properly warmed and cooled every day.

And our moon is the perfect size and distance from the Earth for its gravitational pull. The moon creates important ocean tides and movement so ocean waters do not stagnate, and yet our massive oceans are restrained from spilling over across the continents.4

Water...colorless, odorless and without taste, and yet no living thing can survive without it. Plants, animals and human beings consist mostly of water (about two-thirds of the human body is water). You'll see why the characteristics of water are uniquely suited to life:

It has an unusually high boiling point and freezing point. Water allows us to live in an environment of fluctuating temperature changes, while keeping our bodies a steady 98.6 degrees.

proof of GodWater is a universal solvent. This property of water means that thousands of chemicals, minerals and nutrients can be carried throughout our bodies and into the smallest blood vessels.5

Water is also chemically neutral. Without affecting the makeup of the substances it carries, water enables food, medicines and minerals to be absorbed and used by the body.

Water has a unique surface tension. Water in plants can therefore flow upward against gravity, bringing life-giving water and nutrients to the top of even the tallest trees.

Water freezes from the top down and floats, so fish can live in the winter.

Ninety-seven percent of the Earth's water is in the oceans. But on our Earth, there is a system designed which removes salt from the water and then distributes that water throughout the globe. Evaporation takes the ocean waters, leaving the salt, and forms clouds which are easily moved by the wind to disperse water over the land, for vegetation, animals and people. It is a system of purification and supply that sustains life on this planet, a system of recycled and reused water.6

The human brain...simultaneously processes an amazing amount of information. Your brain takes in all the colors and objects you see, the temperature around you, the pressure of your feet against the floor, the sounds around you, the dryness of your mouth, even the texture of your keyboard. Your brain holds and processes all your emotions, thoughts and memories. At the same time your brain keeps track of the ongoing functions of your body like your breathing pattern, eyelid movement, hunger and movement of the muscles in your hands.

existence of GodThe human brain processes more than a million messages a second.7 Your brain weighs the importance of all this data, filtering out the relatively unimportant. This screening function is what allows you to focus and operate effectively in your world. The brain functions differently than other organs. There is an intelligence to it, the ability to reason, to produce feelings, to dream and plan, to take action, and relate to other people.

The eye...can distinguish among seven million colors. It has automatic focusing and handles an astounding 1.5 million messages -- simultaneously.8 Evolution focuses on mutations and changes from and within existing organisms. Yet evolution alone does not fully explain the initial source of the eye or the brain -- the start of living organisms from nonliving matter.

2. Does God exist? The universe had a start - what caused it?

Scientists are convinced that our universe began with one enormous explosion of energy and light, which we now call the Big Bang. This was the singular start to everything that exists: the beginning of the universe, the start of space, and even the initial start of time itself.

Astrophysicist Robert Jastrow, a self-described agnostic, stated, "The seed of everything that has happened in the Universe was planted in that first instant; every star, every planet and every living creature in the Universe came into being as a result of events that were set in motion in the moment of the cosmic explosion...The Universe flashed into being, and we cannot find out what caused that to happen."9

Steven Weinberg, a Nobel laureate in Physics, said at the moment of this explosion, "the universe was about a hundred thousands million degrees Centigrade...and the universe was filled with light."10

The universe has not always existed. It had a start...what caused that? Scientists have no explanation for the sudden explosion of light and matter.

3. Does God exist? The universe operates by uniform laws of nature. Why does it?


Much of life may seem uncertain, but look at what we can count on day after day: gravity remains consistent, a hot cup of coffee left on a counter will get cold, the earth rotates in the same 24 hours, and the speed of light doesn't change -- on earth or in galaxies far from us.

How is it that we can identify laws of nature that never change? Why is the universe so orderly, so reliable?

"The greatest scientists have been struck by how strange this is. There is no logical necessity for a universe that obeys rules, let alone one that abides by the rules of mathematics. This astonishment springs from the recognition that the universe doesn't have to behave this way. It is easy to imagine a universe in which conditions change unpredictably from instant to instant, or even a universe in which things pop in and out of existence."12

Richard Feynman, a Nobel Prize winner for quantum electrodynamics, said, "Why nature is mathematical is a mystery...The fact that there are rules at all is a kind of miracle."13

4. Does God exist? The DNA code informs, programs a cell's behavior.

existence of GodAll instruction, all teaching, all training comes with intent. Someone who writes an instruction manual does so with purpose. Did you know that in every cell of our bodies there exists a very detailed instruction code, much like a miniature computer program? As you may know, a computer program is made up of ones and zeros, like this: 110010101011000. The way they are arranged tell the computer program what to do. The DNA code in each of our cells is very similar. It's made up of four chemicals that scientists abbreviate as A, T, G, and C. These are arranged in the human cell like this: CGTGTGACTCGCTCCTGAT and so on. There are three billions of these letters in every human cell!!

Well, just like you can program your phone to beep for specific reasons, DNA instructs the cell. DNA is a three-billion-lettered program telling the cell to act in a certain way. It is a full instruction manual.14

existence of GodWhy is this so amazing? One has to ask....how did this information program wind up in each human cell? These are not just chemicals. These are chemicals that instruct, that code in a very detailed way exactly how the person's body should develop.

Natural, biological causes are completely lacking as an explanation when programmed information is involved. You cannot find instruction, precise information like this, without someone intentionally constructing it.

5. Does God exist? We know God exists because he pursues us. He is constantly initiating and seeking for us to come to him.

I was an atheist at one time. And like most atheists, the issue of people believing in God bothered me greatly. What is it about atheists that we would spend so much time, attention, and energy refuting something that we don't believe even exists?! What causes us to do that? When I was an atheist, I attributed my intentions as caring for those poor, delusional people...to help them realize their hope was completely ill-founded. To be honest, I also had another motive. As I challenged those who believed in God, I was deeply curious to see if they could convince me otherwise. Part of my quest was to become free from the question of God. If I could conclusively prove to believers that they were wrong, then the issue is off the table, and I would be free to go about my life.

proof of GodI didn't realize that the reason the topic of God weighed so heavily on my mind, was because God was pressing the issue. I have come to find out that God wants to be known. He created us with the intention that we would know him. He has surrounded us with evidence of himself and he keeps the question of his existence squarely before us. It was as if I couldn't escape thinking about the possibility of God. In fact, the day I chose to acknowledge God's existence, my prayer began with, "Ok, you win..." It might be that the underlying reason atheists are bothered by people believing in God is because God is actively pursuing them.

I am not the only one who has experienced this. Malcolm Muggeridge, socialist and philosophical author, wrote, "I had a notion that somehow, besides questing, I was being pursued." C.S. Lewis said he remembered, "...night after night, feeling whenever my mind lifted even for a second from my work, the steady, unrelenting approach of Him whom I so earnestly desired not to meet. I gave in, and admitted that God was God, and knelt and prayed: perhaps, that night, the most dejected and reluctant convert in all of England."

Lewis went on to write a book titled, "Surprised by Joy" as a result of knowing God. I too had no expectations other than rightfully admitting God's existence. Yet over the following several months, I became amazed by his love for me.

6. Does God exist? Unlike any other revelation of God, Jesus Christ is the clearest, most specific picture of God revealing himself to us.

Why Jesus? Look throughout the major world religions and you'll find that Buddha, Muhammad, Confucius and Moses all identified themselves as teachers or prophets. None of them ever claimed to be equal to God. Surprisingly, Jesus did. That is what sets Jesus apart from all the others. He said God exists and you're looking at him. Though he talked about his Father in heaven, it was not from the position of separation, but of very close union, unique to all humankind. Jesus said that anyone who had seen Him had seen the Father, anyone who believed in him, believed in the Father.

He said, "I am the light of the world, he who follows me will not walk in darkness, but will have the light of life."15 He claimed attributes belonging only to God: to be able to forgive people of their sin, free them from habits of sin, give people a more abundant life and give them eternal life in heaven. Unlike other teachers who focused people on their words, Jesus pointed people to himself. He did not say, "follow my words and you will find truth." He said, "I am the way, the truth, and the life, no one comes to the Father but through me."16

What proof did Jesus give for claiming to be divine? He did what people can't do. Jesus performed miracles. He healed people...blind, crippled, deaf, even raised a couple of people from the dead. He had power over objects...created food out of thin air, enough to feed crowds of several thousand people. He performed miracles over nature...walked on top of a lake, commanding a raging storm to stop for some friends. People everywhere followed Jesus, because he constantly met their needs, doing the miraculous. He said if you do not want to believe what I'm telling you, you should at least believe in me based on the miracles you're seeing.17

Jesus Christ showed God to be gentle, loving, aware of our self-centeredness and shortcomings, yet deeply wanting a relationship with us. Jesus revealed that although God views us as sinners, worthy of his punishment, his love for us ruled and God came up with a different plan. God himself took on the form of man and accepted the punishment for our sin on our behalf. Sounds ludicrous? Perhaps, but many loving fathers would gladly trade places with their child in a cancer ward if they could. The Bible says that the reason we would love God is because he first loved us.

Jesus died in our place so we could be forgiven. Of all the religions known to humanity, only through Jesus will you see God reaching toward humanity, providing a way for us to have a relationship with him. Jesus proves a divine heart of love, meeting our needs, drawing us to himself. Because of Jesus' death and resurrection, he offers us a new life today. We can be forgiven, fully accepted by God and genuinely loved by God. He says, "I have loved you with an everlasting love, therefore I have continued my faithfulness to you."18 This is God, in action.

Does God exist? If you want to know, investigate Jesus Christ. We're told that "God so loved the world that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life."19

God does not force us to believe in him, though he could. Instead, he has provided sufficient proof of his existence for us to willingly respond to him. The earth's perfect distance from the sun, the unique chemical properties of water, the human brain, DNA, the number of people who attest to knowing God, the gnawing in our hearts and minds to determine if God is there, the willingness for God to be known through Jesus Christ. If you need to know more about Jesus and reasons to believe in him, please see: Beyond Blind Faith.

If you want to begin a relationship with God now, you can.

This is your decision, no coercion here. But if you want to be forgiven by God and come into a relationship with him, you can do so right now by asking him to forgive you and come into your life. Jesus said, "Behold, I stand at the door [of your heart] and knock. He who hears my voice and opens the door, I will come into him [or her]."20 If you want to do this, but aren't sure how to put it into words, this may help: "Jesus, thank you for dying for my sins. You know my life and that I need to be forgiven. I ask you to forgive me right now and come into my life. I want to know you in a real way. Come into my life now. Thank you that you wanted a relationship with me. Amen."

God views your relationship with him as permanent. Referring to all those who believe in him, Jesus Christ said of us, "I know them, and they follow me; and I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish, and no one shall snatch them out of my hand."21

So, does God exist? Looking at all these facts, one can conclude that a loving God does exist and can be known in an intimate, personal way. If you need more information about Jesus' claim to divinity, or about God's existence, or if you have similar important questions, please email us.

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About the Author: As a former atheist, Marilyn Adamson found it difficult to refute the continuously answered prayers and quality of life of a close friend. In challenging the beliefs of her friend, Marilyn was amazed to learn the wealth of objective evidence pointing to the existence of God. After about a year of persistent questioning, she responded to God's offer to come into her life and has found faith in Him to be constantly substantiated and greatly rewarding.

(1) Romans 1:19-21
(2) Jeremiah 29:13-14
(3) R.E.D. Clark, Creation (London: Tyndale Press, 1946), p. 20
(4) The Wonders of God's Creation, Moody Institute of Science (Chicago, IL)
(5) Ibid.
(6) Ibid.
(7) Ibid.
(8) Hugh Davson, Physiology of the Eye, 5th ed (New York: McGraw Hill, 1991)
(9) Robert Jastrow; "Message from Professor Robert Jastrow"; LeaderU.com; 2002.
(10) Steven Weinberg; The First Three Minutes: A Modern View of the Origin of the Universe; (Basic Books,1988); p 5.
(11) omitted
(12) Dinesh D'Souza, What's So Great about Christianity; (Regnery Publishing, Inc, 2007, chapter 11).
(13) Richard Feynman, The Meaning of It All: Thoughts of a Citizen-Scientist (New York: BasicBooks, 1998), 43.
(14) Francis S. Collins, director of the Human Genome Project, and author of The Language of God, (Free Press, New York, NY), 2006
(15) John 8:12
(16) John 14:6
(17) John 14:11
(18) Jeremiah 31:3
(19) John 3:16
(20) Revelation 3:20
(21) John 10:27-29